97 | Heal Anxiety, Pain, and Trauma through Hypnosis with Lenora

I am having Leonora on to speak with us. She is with DTB horizons. And she's actually been on twice before. But it was at the end of the conversation on episode 86. Pause and pivot where she mentioned that she works through hypnosis with people on helping them heal from anxiety, pain and trauma that made me want to have her on again to speak further into this. In April, we were touching on anxiety. And I wanted to make sure that she was able to come on and speak with us on tips to help us through this. If any of you deal with trauma or pain, she can work with you. And this is not hypnosis like you might think of it. So she dives deeper into that as well to kind of explain how she can help you even online work through these past traumas and events that may be creating anxiety and pain in your life.

Some of the questions we discuss:
-What do you believe the underlying cause of anxiety is?

-How do you help people with healing the Trauma in their life?

-Do you feel everyone has some underlying trauma they could heal?

-How does this trauma show up as anxiety in our lives?

-If someone is nervous about hypnosis where could they begin with you?

Learn more from Lenora:
Lenora Edwards Speech Language Pathology Coaching and Professional Hypnosis - Lenora Edwards (wpengine.com)

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Welcome to raising healthy humans. A podcast created for busy moms where you can easily find info on health and wellness for your family. Join Courtney, a health coach movement and posture specialist and founder of form fit and active and supportive community where she helps busy moms move more here on raising healthy humans podcast. She shares personal life experiences, training, knowledge and conversations with other health and wellness experts so you can raise healthy humans. Today, I am having Leonora on to speak with us. She is with DTB horizons. And she's actually been on twice before. But it was at the end of the conversation on episode 86. Pause and pivot where she mentioned that she works through hypnosis with people on helping them heal from anxiety, pain and trauma that made me want to have her on again to speak further into this. In April, we were touching on anxiety. And I wanted to make sure that she was able to come on and speak with us on tips to help us through this. If any of you deal with trauma or pain, she can work with you. And this is not hypnosis like you might think of it. So she dives deeper into that as well to kind of explain how she can help you even online work through these past traumas and events that may be creating anxiety and pain in your life. Hello, how are you today? I am fantastic. How are you? Miss Courtney? I am great. I'm excited to have you. Here you are. This is your third time. I know. But the second time you spoke I was I you spoke about trauma and pain and healing. And I was I had to have you back on because this is something I'm very passionate about. Because I work with women with in regards to pain. And I have noticed there have been some moms that I've worked with that just continued to deal with pain. And I feel like it's something that I can't help with, there's something more that I'm not able to help them with. And when you mentioned that you help women heal from pain, through trauma healing, I figured I have to have you on to speak into that a little bit more. And then also we're talking about anxiety this month. So any information that you have, because I know I mean, that type of stuff, trauma, pain, stress, anxiety, we kind of all go together. Absolutely. Absolutely. I completely agree with that. So my my background is, as a speech pathologist and how I came to this experience was, I was going through a very painful experience in my life, I was having a very difficult time with food, and it had gotten out of control over a number of years of my life. And I was doing so much to try and help myself. And I personally love the self help community, the personal growth community, and I'm working to rebrand it to help yourself, I think it should be a smorgasbord, everybody should feel really welcome to come and enjoy and explore. And to find ways to truly help ourselves to help ourselves become and to be the people that we want to show up as in this world. So as I was going through my experience of an eating disorder and dealing with anxiety and putting on a very happy face to cover it because I wouldn't share it with anybody. I was getting to the point where it was very apparent, I couldn't do it alone. And I was getting my second false tooth drilled into my head. And I thought you're gonna need to start calling in some more assistance and or it wasn't that I was stupid, of which I had a thought process of from very early on in my life that I was stupid. And I had come to the conclusion of there's something I don't know, I need to I need to find other people who can help me figure out what's going on. So I started to reach out to professionals and one in particular, I had found them on YouTube and I just loved their work. They were doing so much profound work online, and I could not piece it together. So as I started to reach out to that professional, on how to help myself, they were able to show me the things that I did not know. And one of them that I had learned was I learned hypnosis and neurolinguistics and also one in particular was called holographic memory resolution. So now I have a certification as a holographic certified holographic memory resolution practitioner. So what exactly is that? Yeah, completely, it is emotionally reframing the event that occurred. So our mind and body are connected, our culture would have you think your mind is over here and your body is over here and doesn't make sense together. But no, everything that we experience we experience through our mind and our body, and they're connected. So when events happen over time, whether it's that you grew up with a narcissist, and there was a lot of shaming and a lot of guilting, going on whether you grew up in a very loud environment where there was ongoing fighting, whether you didn't receive the attention that you wanted and needed, as you were growing up, our body records, the events that we experience, and then they start to show up, and they can start to show up as anxiety in our body, they can start to show up as my case, an eating disorder, they can start to show up as cutting, they can start to show up as stress of crying at night, and you don't know why or sleep issues, and you don't know why or you get to the end of your day and other things are going on. And in our very busy world. You could think, Oh, I'm just stressed at work, or I've had to crap too much caffeine be the case. But there might also be something else. And when we can't get to the root of something, it really continues on because what is happening in the system is it's going, I need attention, can you please work on this, we need to resolve this something is happening. And that is how I came to learn the things that I learned and how I came to the point of truly feeling. I needed to change my career, because I was helping people communicate externally. And now I help people communicate on the inside because something is going on. And it's causing great stress. And it was such an intrinsic desire to help people to to help them feel better, because I knew how bad I felt that that's why I went and I got certifications and hours and years and how I came to here 10 years later. And plus years later, actually. So with that, because when you think of trauma, you think that it's got to be something severe. But I'm guessing based on what you're saying, it may not even be something so severe that you're dealing. So it can be even just minor little things that are occurring in the household or how you even perceive things are occurring in the household. Absolutely. So trauma, our definition of trauma is often we think of car crashes, or sexual molestation and being at war, and we should, that is absolutely traumatic. But trauma can also be anything that your nervous system perceives as life threatening. And that could be being left alone for a period of time when you're young, getting your toy taken away and not understanding why being told that you're bad, and hearing it on repeat, and really internalizing it and then having these ongoing thoughts and these ongoing feelings, that you're not good enough or that you're not worthy, you're not deserving or it's never enough. And it could really manifest into so many different things in our life. One of which being anxiety. And what it truly is, is when we start to feel that tension when we start to feel, however, anxiety feels for us. It's an alarm. Just like we have alerts on our dashboard in the car, just like we have alarms in our house. It's an alarm that something is going on. And it needs to be resolved or it needs to be tended. Okay, and I'm thinking of my own household, I dealt with a lot of anxiety. My son deals with a lot of anxiety. And I'm thinking even just the trauma of maybe seeing things that you shouldn't have at a young age. For me, it wasn't anything going on in the home, it was more. The News World News was always on at dinnertime. So I was always listening, hearing things. And I know that that had an effect on me, my son, similarly, more of the video games and things like that, that can also create this kind of trauma. It doesn't even have to be something specific, right? Like I mean, it can be even something like that as well. We're seeing more than what your brain can handle at that time. Absolutely. And then it also causes ongoing stress. So once we see it, then we actually, so we've now seen it, but then we have pictures and sounds playing in our head. And now they're on repeat. So it's not just that one event, it's how that that event occurred, how we categorize it, and then how we replayed it again and again. So with, with the understanding that we have pictures and sounds in our head, and that we take a recording, and then we could play it back. So for example, think of what you did yesterday, and you can play back the events of what you did yesterday, we have the ability to amplify the events, making them much bigger and almost imagine blowing it up on a green on a IMAX theater screen. And then also imagine shrinking it down to the size of postage stamp. So we have that ability to perceive that. And as we replay things that are disruptive to our nervous system. And each one of us is wired differently. Some people can really handle intense situations beautifully, and they're they have that ability, other people are more empathetic, and they they are more sensitive, and they might not have the capacity to handle it, as well as the other person. So it's really very individualized. But the more we play it in our mind and body, the more we're playing it in our mind in our bodies, amping it up and releasing the stress chemical responses in our body. And it goes on and on and on. And it builds over time. And it's not just that our body will also when we receive information, we will experience it, we will delete it, distort it, or we will capture it in an in a specific way, we'll categorize it. So we have an event in the body goes, Oh, this was a happy event start where we start Happy, happy memories. And then you have like, if you think about all your Christmas warnings, they're all stored in the same place. And then if you think about how many times you've had a fight with whether it's a significant other, or your child or your sister, whatever the case may be, you're stored in the same place, too. And so it's not that one event, it's all of those events over time. So when you're experiencing anxiety, it's not just this is why anxiety gets worse. It's not just that one event, it's everything that's categorized in that one event. And your body's amping it up more and more and more, because it doesn't know how to manage this situation. Okay, then you answered my question for me, because I was thinking like, how do some people deal with this, and some people don't, because you can have two of the same, you know, two children and a household seeing the same exact thing. And then the way they handle it is completely different. So thank you. My question, before I even asked it. So how do we start to work on one maybe creating less of a, I don't want to say a response. But the first thing I think is the constant replay in our like, is that kind of creating that trauma over and over again, like does that make it worse, when we're doing that, it makes it ongoing. So it can make it worse, depending on what depending on what other things you have going on in your life at that time, too. So you know, if you think of, you're out on a sunny day at a picnic, and you think of something that was just not that great, you're going to have a different response. But now if you're lying in bed, and you already are experiencing stress from the events of the day, now you're adding that now it's adding more juice to the system. And now it's coming up more and more and more stress. So it really does depend on where you are, once you start to recognize the things that I like to encourage my clients to do is to raise their level of awareness. What What if it's outside your awareness, it's outside your control. So how often are you noticing these events of anxiety? When are they occurring? How frequently they're occurring? Where are they occurring? Quite literally in your body. Sometimes people will say, they're okay at work. And then when they get home, they have all this anxiety, and then they'll wake up in the middle of the night with anxiety. And I'll ask them, okay, as you and I will purposefully elicit and trigger them because I want to know what else is going on. So the last time that you were feeling with anxiety, where did you feel in your body, and sometimes they might say, Oh, I really felt it in my chest rate. So now we have a picture of what they're doing. Now we have a location in the body of where they store it. And I'll ask them a variety of questions as it goes on. Is it inside or outside? Is there a weight, a texture temperature to it? Is there anything else that you notice about it? So these questions are a little different? And what I'm doing as I'm doing that, as I'm helping my client understand that there is a conscious and a subconscious connection and we're bridging that we are moving Making that connection of where they hold it, how they hold it. When we come into this world, we understand shapes, and we understand colors and textures. Language is a different component, we have to develop that skill. But this is the language of our nervous system, language of color, shapes, textures. And when somebody's locating it in on their body, they're accessing, all their nervous system has coded it. And it is very different and very personalized to each individual. Sometimes, it may be good, sometimes it may be smooth, sometimes it may be heavy, whatever the case is on how they feel it. But that's what they're doing. They're creating that bridge of, there's something here and I'm asking them to tell me more about what they're noticing. And they're quite literally pulling up the icon as if they would be pulling it up on their laptop, the program. And once they're doing that, they're better able to handle the stressor. Because what is that doing, then, as we're doing that, as we're creating that component, that connection, I'm then able to guide them. And it's kind of like asking the conscious mind to sit down, take a cup of tea and enjoy a cookie. And I'm going to work with the subconscious. So now we've sat down the 5%, we're working with a 95% that saying, This is how I categorized it. This is where I feel it. This is how old it was when I remembered being where I was this is how many times it's been in my life. And I will ask them a variety questions. Because again, once you start communicating with the subconscious, it's on a different field. It's not linear to oh, this happened at my birthday. Maybe it's connected to my birthday, it could be I was 13. And now we're pulling up a memory from when they're three and that they never remembered. Because that's how the subconscious has categorized it. What we're doing is we're then maneuvering in that memory, clearing what we no longer need and communicating to the subconscious that the event is over. So if you did you ever see the movie Ghostbusters? Yes. So in the movie Ghostbusters, they have a Ghost Trap. And they capture the Ghost Trap and one trap and then they go okay, well, what do we do with all these ghosts and they store it in a place they saw it in the in the like ghosts basement. And then by the end of the movie, this thing is losing control, because the system is on overwhelm. That's the same thing. We store our events, we store our life experiences in our body. And if we store enough traumatic experiences, it starts to show up. And that's the alarm that is happening in the nervous system. So as that's happening, what we're then doing is we're going in and we're clearing out the ghosts, we're clearing out the memories, we're clearing out what no longer needs to be there. And sometimes it may be letting that that memory letting that part know it's safe. It's okay, it's survived. I've worked with a number of people that have experienced sexual abuse or have experienced shame or have experienced a variety of things. And what is happening in the nervous system is that it's still open and running, it doesn't realize the event is over. So we go and we close down the event, just like we closed down the program on a computer, we close it down and letting the system know it's safe. It's okay. And as we're doing that, what I also dabble in is Chinese facial reading. And you can start to see the lines on their face shift you can start to see their breathing change, you can start to end as an as their eyes may or may not be close. They're telling me about what's going on in the scene. Person in the scene looks better, they're breathing differently. Now whether we take them out of the scene or whatever the case is that we do that, how we resolve that in holographic memory resolution, we let the nervous system know that it's safe. And that is the most important thing because they still think they're trapped in 1997. And it's over here in 2023. They don't know the event is over. That's what we do is that we help that subconscious understand. Okay, you can let it go you can move it out of your body. And sometimes I also do the same I also do non disclosure therapy so if they don't want to tell me what's happening, or if they can't remember, that's okay. No problem. We clear it out anyway. We communicate to the subconscious. We no longer need this. We can erase this information we can resolve it we can clean it we can put it out to pasture whatever it is and we restore and we put something better something serving in its place. Okay are you doing when you speak about doing this like going to the subconscious I know that you do hit no therapy, right? Like I do hypnosis so there's okay. Okay, yes. Okay. So is that what you're then doing to bring them into the subconscious is hypnosis to to a point? So people often think hypnosis is our being in trance is really scary. Have you ever seen a movie? Yes, we've been in trance, you're a human. So because because we naturally are trans machines, we go in and out of trances all the time, our conversation, anybody listening that's engaged in our conversation is focused on the conversation. And that's what a trans is, is just a narrowing of focus. So it's not that they they don't have any control over their body, it's not that they can't lift their fingers or walk away or, or that I would do something that they they're not in agreement to, that's not the case at all at all times you have autonomy, to make those changes and to, to understand that you are always the one in control you as the the client, the person individual, not you as an menorah. So when you're doing that, especially when somebody is in trance, they'll say, I don't want you to do anything that that I'm not comfortable with. And I follow that. But at the same time, I can't, you have total control. When we have people in trance again, as humans, we naturally go in and out of trance if you've ever driven down the highway and missed your exit, and we have bananas that I gotta go on the U turn, because you were on something else that was just a focus state. So right now, as in our conversation, you're not really thinking about the humming of your refrigerator. And you're not thinking about where are my keys, or you know, all these other things that we're thinking about, there's just a narrow focus, and you have total control. And we are both participating. So it's a great component. When they send my clients do like to keep their eyes closed, others like to keep their eyes open, and it's truly whatever their preferences, okay. And then I could imagine, especially for those that are dealing with trauma, asking them to go back to a traumatic situation could be very fearful for them. But I know that that's not exactly what you do. Can you explain like, to help people with that fear of having to go back and relive that experience? Absolutely. So all the work that I do is online. So it's not even that I'm with anybody on a couch. So I zoom with every but all of my clients. And when we go to that event, what we're actually doing is we're dropping in right before the event occurred. They don't have to relive it sometimes in EMR and other approaches, it then would happen then would happen, that would happen. And you're quite literally having to relive the event and it's very uncomfortable for that person. What we do is, is there anything else that you want to look at here? No, right? And we move, we quite literally draw the the focus and the attention to what would you have like to see happen? What do you want to happen instead. And as we're doing that, we're then re recording something new. We're also separating from the system, the nervous system that this is okay, I am safe, I can move past this. And this is what was here and instead. And it's not that we rewrite the past, it's quite literally offering resolution to your mind and body. Because it's really about you, we want to get that energy out or moving or resolved whatever label you want to give it. But that energy is still thinking that it's open and running. And it's not anymore. And that's the most important part is having our clients and having individuals who experienced trauma, understand that they are now safe, the event is over and they can move forward. And when you have that resolution, and some of my clients will be teary eyed, some of my clients will overboard or they're sweating. And, like I didn't mean to cry. And it's like this is a very good thing because when we're doing energy work in the sense of our mind and body are experiencing something. This is when we're sad, we released tears, just one where we're moving, we sweat, this is a good thing. This is your body being alive. But also, in this case, this is your body shedding what it no longer needs and it's just quite literally shedding. It's just coming out and it's perfectly fine. And I've been through this process a number of times and I still do a weekly or daily cleanse just to keep my energy nice and clean of what are often referred to as color breathing. And it's a way to help keep your system calm and to help neutralize it because we're constantly picking up energy from other people are constantly giving out energy from other people and keeping our our mind and body healthy. To the best of our best Woody is truly important. Just like we do physical work. And we take, we have physical exercise, we have mental awareness, and we want to keep our mindset nice and clear, we will also have that emotional component. And we have that spiritual component in some people, it all contributes, they all go together, it's not just one or the other at the data, it all comes together. And our culture would like you to think that it's all separate, but truly, it it creates this beautiful place to live quite literally in your own mind and body so that you can move through the world the way that you want. And it's not like oh, suddenly menorah doesn't have problems. That's not the case at all. It's this is how I choose to help myself, show up as much as I want to in this world and to be of service as much as I want to. Okay, I'm trying to think, as you're speaking about everything, so it's coming into being more present, obviously. But for those of us who is I'm thinking, Okay, this all sounds great. But what happens for that person who just is in that constant loop, where it can be a year from now, and you're going something triggers you, and it plays, you play back that loop again? Are you saying that this, this will help that loop break, where you won't end up playing that loop back or if that loop plays back, you're just just have no emotion towards it is that what's happening both and not no motion, it's just more neutral. So for example, one of my clients, they had experienced sexual abuse, and she would wake up in the middle of the night, very consistently at 2am for years on end. And when we regressed her back, she was, that's when her system was getting woken up by her abuser at 2am. And so she would have a very difficult time sleeping, and she really couldn't get a good night's sleep. As we work together to clear what she no longer need, her system was going into panic, under anxiety, understandably so, even though she lived by herself, even though this was years later, her system was not okay, quite literally her nervous system. So as we did our work together, she was able to release what she no longer needed her nervous system in her mind, and our body and our heart, were able to understand this event is over, I can't change the past, but I can move forward. And that's the most important thing is that people think, you know, if I, if I forgive them, or if I forget about it, it's dismissing it. And we're not, we're not necessarily doing that, in this case, we're just quite literally communicating that energetic component out of the body, so that it can heal and that it can resolve and that it can move forward. We can't change what happened to you, but we can change how you experience the rest of your life. And that's a very good thing. That's a very empowering thing, because people want to sleep, people don't want to naturally walk around with anxiety, or hatred towards somebody. And again, it's not that you're forgiving that person. You're quite literally protecting yourself, and letting your mind and body get that resolution that it deeply needs. Okay, and how may this show up? I mean, I, I would assume for many people, if they're dealing with trauma, a specific trauma, like you said, sexual abuse, that's very clear. But for some people who may not be having something so traumatic, are there things that you may notice that you are struggling with? Is it just this anxiety? Being What are how could it show up? There are some times where you quite literally, I don't know why this is happening. So I had a client reach out to me and she had said to me, you know, I'm trying to she was trying to eat healthier, and she was also trying to do intermittent fasting. And she goes, some days I'm fine. And she was aiming for I think 1314 15 hours, something like that. And to some days, I'm fine. And other days, I can't even get to six hours like literally from the time she goes to bed to the time that she wakes up and I had said Okay, tell me about that. And she had started to tell me about her most recent time where she was driving and she felt she started to think saw thoughts and she felt a feeling come up. And as I'm as I'm FaceTiming with her on zoom with her, you can start to see her go quite literally into To another trance, as she's talking to me, you can see her face is getting flushed, her breathing is changing. She's thinking about things that are causing her great stress. And as I'm as she's talking to me about it, I'm asking her, okay, is this how it feels? Yeah. I said, Great. Where do you feel it? It feels like my neck. It's coming up. Now it's going down my back. Now it's going through my shoulder. And I started to ask for those questions, that series of questions that I asked it earlier. That's how it starts to show up. If you're going throughout your day, and all of a sudden, you're like, Okay, I need and your breathing changes, you're you're quite literally feeling a shift from five minutes ago, you are perfectly happy. Now something has set you off. Finding out that trigger, what was that trigger? In her case, she was thinking about her responsibilities that she had to take care of later that day, that caused her to have this response, which was go find food, or which was, I need a way to soothe myself, you might go into the closet and burst into tears, you might want to get in the car and think I just got to get out of here. I just got to get out of here. And that's you go in you are or any individual going into another state, when you get those really strong shifts, especially when you were just perfectly pleasant. And you're Oh, that's kind of irritated me. When you feel that intensity? That's what's that's the alarm. Okay, you're making me feel like this might be like, what, what many would consider as a panic attack, like just out of nowhere, they start to deal with this panic attack. And interesting. There are times when I am teaching a class and I like to always try to figure out what is happening within my own body? Is it my breathing is changed? Is it you know, what did I eat that day? That kind of stuff. My heart will start racing. I don't know, where just start racing. And I'm wondering, is this something like, I almost feel like maybe it's something that I haven't dealt with or not dealing with? Now, could that be something that's occurred from the past, and it's because I could probably tell you when it started, and go like, it's like one of those things, I didn't deal with that for years. And then all of a sudden it started. And I always think like, oh, maybe my iron is low, or maybe I don't have enough of magnesium, or maybe my breathing pattern. And you know, maybe I'm scrunched over and I'm affecting my vagus nerve, or, like I start to try to create the science behind it. So it'd be more of a trauma or something else, it could be something else, whether so panic attacks, you know, everybody has a slightly different definition of what their panic attack looks like. I like to call it increased stress or increase overwhelm. When you notice that there's a shift, and there's an uncomfortable feeling. And there it is, again, oh my God, that's a really good thing. Because you have a location for it, you know, where you're feeling it. And you and you've now said, I felt this before, all super, super helpful things because now your body is effectively running what it needs to run, it's effectively running the program. And that's a good thing. Especially because people will think I'm broken, I can't do this, I'm something's wrong. It's not that you're broken. It's simply that we need to upgrade the software or we need to upgrade, whatever is causing you the stress, this is actually a great sign that your system is working beautifully. You might not like the result. But your system is working. And that's really, really good thing. Okay, knowing a lot about the parasympathetic and sympathetic state, and how things are being kind of pushed into action. Would it be just be your diet, your breathing patterns? Could it be all of that that's just creating this parasympathetic response? Right? Absolutely hear sympathetic response? It could absolutely be, especially when when you're then getting into a relaxed state, when you're, you're relaxed, because you're more in your zone. And you're you're guiding people through whether it's a yoga practice or meditation practice, you're starting to also come into a different state. So we're having a different chemical hormonal balance. The environment is supporting it if there's, you know, nurturing music and different energy around us versus like if we went to a football game, clearly a different state. And if you're noticing something else is going on and you've worked on these other things and they haven't been resolved. It may be something to consider that says, Let me try something else. And there we go. Have a smorgasbord again, because there are so many and humans were incredibly wonderful creatures. And we were also incredibly cool. complex. And if you're not getting the result that you want, that's okay. What else can we try and some people it is, it may simply be, hey, I had way too much caffeine or I need a different vitamin. And this is my body telling me, I need to work on something or it needs specific attention. And I think it's we're coming to a point in our culture of our wareness is raising, but also the stress that we are getting stimulated with is very, very different than the stress of our grandparents and even the stress of our parents. It's just another level or another layer of stress. We're moving at top speeds. And we're getting alerts and notifications and calls from 14 different ways within five minutes. And it quite literally is very alarming to your system, because you're trying to regulate and now it's like getting pinged all the time. So these are other things that we have to be aware of that says, Okay, I know how I like to feel, how can I maintain that throughout my day, and some days, you might be really strong in it and other days, it might have teetered a little bit, and you didn't have that component that you want it and that's okay. It's not ever going to be 100% for 100 days, and you're never going to be bothered, because we're not sitting on a hill somewhere, and even then it rains up there. So it's really just finding things that really work for you, and how you want to maintain your level of wellness and your level of joy. Okay, one more question for you, when you had mentioned, where you practice a calming like this in the morning, because you want to make sure that you're clearing everything out? Can you speak into that a little bit more like is? Because again, I think like, is that like meditation? What are you doing? Are you because that trance like state is basically like a meditation where you're really kind of just being present and not thinking about everything, right? Absolutely. So when I like to, and I love um, I think it was, I don't I don't I don't remember off top my head actually. And I don't want to mess up the name if I got it all wrong. But there was one that said, You're never going to clear your mind entirely. Because you haven't been practicing this for 20 years and sitting on a hill somewhere. And and you have so many other things. So they've mentioned to focus on one thing. And that can draw you in to that calmer state, that meditative state that you're aiming for. Because they'll some of the meditation things will say clear your mind. And the monkey in your mind is like Yeah, right. And if you just say, Okay, I'm going to set the intention to focus on one thing, one thing that brings me joy, or one thing that I want to draw my attention to, when you imagine yourself in a different place, you are in a trance state, because you're drawing your attention, they're setting the intention for when you sit down, to do a breathing practice, or to do a meditation or to do a stress, I think is I stretch them like stress, to do a stress stretch is truly important. Because what you're doing is you're setting that GPS in your mind that says I want to go this way. So when you set the intention of I want to be in a calmer state, I'm going to allow myself to pause. And what I love to do is to allow myself permission to sit for whether it's 510 15 minutes, whatever it is for yourself, allow yourself permission that everything else is going to stop, it's going to pause time will move at its needed pace. But you have this time just for you and give yourself permission to be here in that moment. And what I also like to do is whether it's a breathing practice, or we'll go with with breathing right now, and I'll think of what color might I be experiencing right now? What color is the most one that's showing up? Do I want to keep it? Do I want to let it go? How do I want to feel? And I'll say okay, I want to feel I want to feel joy? What color is joy for me today. And it might be Sunshine Yellow, and I will imagine Sunshine Yellow, flowing around me but also breathing it in and allowing it to maneuver through my body. So that way as you're doing that, you're then focused on that color, you're focused on that feeling. And now as you're breathing color into your body, you're able to quite literally make this mind body connection of allowing your entire body to experience this. And as you resolve in it, you're offering that joy to your nervous system and you're offering that time and that permission and that energetic component to allow yourself to achieve a new balance of experiencing joy in that moment while you're breathing while you're allowing time to heal. was just for you, so that you can be here in this moment. And that's something that I like to do quite frequently throughout my day, especially if I know that other things are coming, when we can allow, when we can set ourselves up for that experience at the beginning of the day, we quite literally will perceive the entire day differently. If you want to experience more joy or even set the intention of, I want to see more people laughing around me, because that feels so good, you will then go out into the grocery store and see more people laughing. Because that's what you're telling your mind to focus on. If we don't tell our mind to focus on something specific, it will go back to default, default being whatever was there before. So it's truly an art of living in the present moment, but also an art of setting the intention. What do I want to see today? How do I want to show up today? I love there's a few things that I wanted to say because I love how you had us imagine a color. Because when many people start to meditate, myself included, we you know, you always hear like breathe in, breathe out. And a lot of people deal with anxiety just when they have to think about breathing. So when you think about a color, that kind of changes the experience, and I was even thinking like what I tried to do to get in a trance like state is just to go outside and look at the trees blowing in the breeze or something like that. But the color is something you can do anywhere, which is great. And then the other thing was the default state, because there's so many people that I will see that, you know, it's that negativity where you get into that thought of like, everything bad happens. And, you know, it's like, oh, another another thing. But it's it really is one our default is to naturally go to the negative because it's a protective mechanism. But if that's where our default naturally is, then how can we not expect to continuously feel like negative things are happening. So the fact that you mentioned and I know you have mentioned this before, when we spoken previously, of before you go into a situation, imagine what you want to see in that situation? Because then you're changing that perception or that saw that default, like you're mentioning. So yeah, we can you can, you can when you know your your outcome. When you know what you want to see, you can make sure that you're getting to that point. So even if you go out with girlfriends, and you want to have so much fun tonight and just want to be present and have a lot of laughter, you're drawing your awareness to that. And that's a great thing. So that way you think and come to the end of the time that you had together. Oh, that was so much fun. Rather than oh my god, there was so much drama. It's just helping yourself. And that is so so important. And I love that you pointed out about the subconscious because you will go back to default. And my favorite one that I ever heard was, we didn't come out of a cave and go Gee, what a great gorgeous day we came out of the cave going what's gonna kill me? Yeah, so we are wired to sort for the negative. So understanding that support yourself and say, Okay, I know this is over here. I would prefer to focus on this. Yeah, I love it. All right. I don't want to keep you any longer. So let us know. Let our listeners know how we can find you. And I happen to be noticing that you've got something specifically about anxiety right now on your website as well. So let us know about that. I do I have my anxiety ebook on my website, you can reach me at DTB horizons, and it stands for determined to be horizons.com. And anybody who is coming from your podcast, they get a complimentary 30 minute phone call with me or a zoom call. So if you have questions, and you want to reach out to me, by all means, do not hesitate. And also, I will be sharing two audio downloads with you. So there'll be in your show notes. And just for you guys and enjoy. Oh, awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I really appreciate spending time with you and I had a great time talking with you, Courtney. Excellent, thank you. Thanks for taking the time out of your day to listen to our podcast. We hope you found this information valuable and can incorporate it into your family's life. 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